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Hmm...
Okay so, I'll get to the point.

I was demodded as of March 29th. Why? "Discussing Moderator/Helper issues in a public forum"

I will tell you right now I do not agree with their decision. Yes, I made a single mistake in that field in a guild I am in, but I did so naively when I should have just PMed the other moderator. Yes, I apologized to her.

However, the second "mistake" is what I do not agree with. I asked a user in an unconventional way** to be my helper. This is how I will always see it. This user has been banned a few times in the past. Sounds bad enough already, right? Why did I even think about helpering them? Because I dont discriminate. This user knew the forum I assigned them to very, very well. The time they were helpered, about 24 hours, they moved things correctly and they didnt get into trouble.

I came back later that night to find out that I not only had a "mod warning" for the first thing, but a complete demodding because of the helpering. They said I had made "another thread" after they had "discussed" with me what I did earlier. I NEVER made a new thread, and I will challenge anyone to find said thread. They told me my actions were disrespectful to other staff members because the user was a "known troll". He was a reformed user. Since that incident? He's gone back to being his old self in the forums. That certainly proves a point there.


Yes, I was instructed to e-mail an admin if I didnt agree, but they should have told me I'd be waiting almost a week for the same thing I had just heard, only more patronizing and dismissing.

I will always "treasure" these quotes:

"your actions almost appeared to be callous in nature"

"We have records of and situations from the past that caused us to make this decision"

"You know me to be fair, as I've shown you in the past when I supported you in another situation last year"

"I am a super busy person, and don't have time to argue this issue with you back and forth on email so I will simply complete our business here"



The last is my favorite, closely followed by the "we have records" one. Oh you have records alright. You mean the time I was accused of harassing someone while handling an Breedables scamming case when I had fully documented everything neatly where other staff could see my progress and you STILL came to me about it despite your having not read all of my case notes (and you told me this!)? Then you proceeded to tell me the report would be dismissed because not only was it a THIRD PARTY report, there were no grounds at all for the report. Or do you mean the time I bidded on Eli's profile auction with a mule because I didnt want to scare off bidders but still wanted to bid? Then you proceeded to arbitrarily "discuss" this with me, throwing the rule I helped found for the exchange about bidding on your own auctions with a mule. For one, it wasnt my auction, I was just editing in bids for Eli. Secondly, this was also not "official" or 'stricken from my record'.


I'm still a little sore about the issue, but I will get over it. I had the opportunity over 2 years to be a moderator, and I did my job. I did it fairly, and I did it unbiased. That was my motto. Anyone who has come into contact with me and my cases knows this. If I can hold the respect of people I have banned in the past, then I know I was doing something right. If I have younger mods coming to me to thank me for being their mentor, then I know I was doing something right.

I'm going to go the mature route about this. This is the only and last time you'll hear about this issue.



**unconventional way: I proposed my helpering of this user as a "social experiment" in which I would test the merits of a reformed user (one who had been banned in the past). I only did so because this user would have flat refused if I had asked them directly, and I didnt want to lose a valuable helper because he was put off by other staff members.






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H_e_a_r_t
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commentCommented on: Sun Apr 08, 2007 @ 10:39pm
i'm very sorry to hear this =/ Sorry. People are busy...always


commentCommented on: Sun Apr 08, 2007 @ 10:39pm
I love the fact that you can get fired for helping them out and not requiring pay. Because I believe the definition of a moderator in the beginning was someone who volunteered to help. rolleyes Stupid. Just. Stupid. Love you <3



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commentCommented on: Mon Apr 09, 2007 @ 06:26am
A great moderator indeed

you helped me MANY times with a nice decition, I even got a warning from you I think, and I believe its completely fair


commentCommented on: Mon Apr 09, 2007 @ 09:46am
Same as many other users, I had heard rumors and was wondering what had actually happened. I'm very sorry and pained to read the details. I don't agree with their decision but I do agree with your decision to go about it maturely. I've seen you be a mod since you were a dedi, and you've always done a great job. The way I see it, Gaia just lost an excellent moderator, and person from their team. Shame on them.

Good luck with your future endeavours, like nursing school and your marriage. I'm positive life has way better things in store for you 3nodding heart



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commentCommented on: Tue Apr 10, 2007 @ 12:09am
It's Gaia's loss.


commentCommented on: Tue Apr 10, 2007 @ 11:20am
Very unfair. neutral
I have your back for all the times you've helped me.
Boombanda is a good example of needing to be demodded. You are not.
Good job at not dragging it out, it shows you're mature in this.
You'll still be a great person with or without the colored name. =)



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commentCommented on: Tue Apr 10, 2007 @ 03:36pm
Was wondering why your name was black. Thought you might've possibly stepped down.

No one's a genius except for a small percentage of people. Regardless of how smart this person was, though, they still had a higher authority of power over yourself. It's just a matter of a slip up and getting too much of the short end of the stick. Or too little, I guess.

The real question of the day is, if you were once again approached to be modded, would you?


commentCommented on: Tue Apr 10, 2007 @ 06:57pm
Hey, I don't know you- but I don't envy you this situation. Miscommunication is one of the greatest causes of loss in our time.

One thing that has always troubled me- is when people use the line 'I'm a busy person'... so what? I think people who aren't busy have given up on life and are dead.
Those you work for are no more above you then you allow them to be. One thing I fear for on Gaia is the mood of 'corporation', or capitalism. I will weep when they lose their mission statement through arbitrary decision-making.

Also- for free? Don't they even give discounts on things around the site, do they send you coupons for netflix in the mail?? Something?!

...sheesh. If you hadn't been here twice as long as me, I'd send ya rare item, lol. neutral

Also- kudos on sticking with gaia, and not leaving, etc. We, the people of Gaia- make it up. The founders- they can only do so much to change the tide.



Frogsnack
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commentCommented on: Wed Apr 11, 2007 @ 03:36am
You were a great mod, and are a great user. smile


commentCommented on: Wed Apr 11, 2007 @ 03:38am
Last line isn't bullshit either. Had she PM'd me about it, I'd have told her to ******** off.

The only flaw I see is that Yuzi's interpretation of "reformed" was biased, I had reformed as an individual, yes. She knew this by getting to know me personally. However, I've not discontinued to disobey the ToS therefore I never reformed in the context of a user on Gaiaonline. My most recent run in with a mod was less then a month prior to becoming a helper and it was for trolling.

I am not a troll, I just choose not to follow the rules because the punishment of disobedience is not an effective deterrent.

Yuzi, you're being far too magnanimous, it is really lame. gonk D':



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commentCommented on: Wed Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:31pm
Druki, I'd have to think about it, but I probably would. I like helping users beyond the answering of questions.

Doc> I can't help being nice D: I can be mean when I have to be though.


commentCommented on: Thu Apr 12, 2007 @ 02:30am
    Yuzi, if you do ever have another chance to become a mod again, you should take it.
    Gaia needs more people like you in charge.



s t a r shiinee
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commentCommented on: Thu Apr 12, 2007 @ 03:15am
o_o . . . don`t worry, I believe you`re innocent. One day I hope you become a mod again in the near future! ^_^


commentCommented on: Thu Apr 12, 2007 @ 11:58pm
you were the coolest mod crying crying
i hope you can somehow get your mod powers back



darkshadow134
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commentCommented on: Fri Apr 13, 2007 @ 12:18am
    oh dear... looks like Gaia's lost one of its best. it's really a shame that you're not a mod anymore - you could show some other mods a thing or two, i'm sure.

    at any rate, as Rose said - it's Gaia's loss.

    emo


commentCommented on: Fri Apr 13, 2007 @ 06:58am
Ouch.

Welcome to my world.



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commentCommented on: Fri Apr 13, 2007 @ 05:05pm
Man that line about being busy killed me.
I really hope it was not Dri that told you that, because really, that is what they PAY her for. stare
Thought, sounds like someone else from the writting.


commentCommented on: Sat Apr 14, 2007 @ 09:04am
crying

Yuzi, I'm sorry to hear about this. I saw you in the forum and I wondered why your name was black.

Good luck in the future. :3



Cid High-Wind
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commentCommented on: Sun Apr 15, 2007 @ 03:41pm
crying


commentCommented on: Tue Apr 17, 2007 @ 05:40pm
>_> That pisses me off, because they shove off all the DECENT mods, and keep the crack heads. Not only that, but don't add any NEW people, that the forums really needs. I'm sick of idiot a** trolls getting away with sh*t, and nothing being done, and it seems like as soon as a regular poster steps one toe out of line... BAM *banned* :/

.. *rants a little* I'm sorry you got demodded @___@;; That's just really crappy.



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commentCommented on: Wed Apr 18, 2007 @ 09:06pm
sorry to hear that crying


commentCommented on: Sun Apr 22, 2007 @ 04:52pm
Thanks for all the hard work in GCD anyway. :<



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commentCommented on: Mon Apr 23, 2007 @ 03:44am
You we're my Favorate Mod >.<

This is completely Gaia's loss.


commentCommented on: Mon Apr 23, 2007 @ 10:38pm
That's a crying shame.

Sorry to hear that. I always thought you were fair and rational, even if the decision wasn't in what would be my favor.



gahitsu
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commentCommented on: Wed Apr 25, 2007 @ 02:19am
Thank you to everyone who commented. I appreciate it <3


commentCommented on: Fri Apr 27, 2007 @ 08:59pm
;_;



454Fifteen
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commentCommented on: Sat Apr 28, 2007 @ 05:08am
!ow... that's really lame... =( I'm sorry to hear that Yuzi. You play a big part in gaia, many many people know you and respect you. That's gotta prove something! The fact that someone's time is more important than dealing with a situation seems a bit absurd (I'm sure there are reasons that I'm unaware of, but it still seems odd).

Modding seems like a time consuming and tough job. If you were fair in your decisions, I think giving you more than a sudden demotion may have been a better choice. I don't know how the inside of gaia works but this doesn't seem to be a very fit ending...

I hope things have been better for you since then! =)


commentCommented on: Sun Apr 29, 2007 @ 12:40am
Sad that happened. I remember you helped me and my friends on some issue a while back and I'm always grateful for your aid.



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commentCommented on: Sun Apr 29, 2007 @ 04:10pm
That's so lame, Yuzi. : ( They'll regret it, don't worry. <3


commentCommented on: Sun Apr 29, 2007 @ 05:20pm
grrr. Total crap, yuzi, and sorry to hear that gaia lost itself one of its best mods :< however, as someone else so properly put it--it's GAIA'S loss in the long run. x.x

much luv, hon.



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commentCommented on: Sun Apr 29, 2007 @ 09:10pm
i still think you were a really great and responsible moderator. It's really gaia's lost...


commentCommented on: Tue May 01, 2007 @ 01:29pm
T,T that is unfair, why you!? why!?
I know other mods that are abusing they're powers and they're not helping anyone, I send them signature reports and the ignore them and send them other stuff (important stuff duh)
and they ignore all of it.... emo
Im really sorry that they demoted you, I wish the best of luck yuzi.



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commentCommented on: Sun May 06, 2007 @ 08:45am
Aww =/ That makes me really sad. I never talked to you but you seemed to be the kind mod. Not to be mean to the other mods and or talk back but they go a little nuts with banning people at times. Then when someone needs to be banned you can't get needed action done.

I think its a shame to do someone like they did to you. Then e-mail you back with what they said "I'm a super busy person." rolleyes I get super busy with other stuff but I take time to talk to people since I run a guild and that's sort of like modding.

Anyway, You got my support for anything! ^.^

-Faith


commentCommented on: Mon May 07, 2007 @ 05:17pm
I think Gaia really is changing much as I don't want to admit it. You make one "Mistake" and you get demodded? Granted I know there are two sides to the story but wow. I wish I knew what went on in the Admins heads nowadays. Its really was different in 2003. *hugs*



Jayce Reinhardt
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commentCommented on: Thu May 17, 2007 @ 05:55am
gonk That sucks. I was wondering why your username was black. You were always my favorite mod.


commentCommented on: Fri May 18, 2007 @ 03:21am
Sorry to hear this... you were such a good mod. ;___;



PliR
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commentCommented on: Fri May 18, 2007 @ 09:45pm
Wow, that sucks. surprised


commentCommented on: Thu May 24, 2007 @ 03:42pm
pheh.

You were my favorite Mod. I alway heard good things about you. Sorry the Admins chose you to pick on.



~ H a j i l e
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commentCommented on: Tue Jun 05, 2007 @ 01:48am
Oh no! My favorite moderator is demodded.


commentCommented on: Fri Jun 08, 2007 @ 03:47pm
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commentCommented on: Mon Jun 18, 2007 @ 09:44pm
User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.So what if I was loved once...

This is truely unfair.
I wish something can be done for it.

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commentCommented on: Wed Jun 20, 2007 @ 10:25pm
sorry to hear that...you were an amazing mod.



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commentCommented on: Mon Jun 25, 2007 @ 12:02am
Aww ><
That makes me so sad!
You were my fav. mod and I really respect you for going about this in a mature way.
Gaia's loss :[


commentCommented on: Wed Jun 27, 2007 @ 03:51am
I don't really know you. I don't think we've ever spoke to each other. You were lucky to be able to be a mod. It will never happen to me, unless I move to San Jose and spend 10 years getting to know Derek Liu. >_>

I can't say it's Gaia's loss, because I really have no idea who you are. It must feel quite terrible, being ignored and shunned as a normal user, because I've felt it too, by those "NPC" aliens. All they did was hover around and only speak to people they knew. They weren't willing to make any new friends. I have a life. I go to school, and I must live on the opposite side of the world. The times I've seen the NPCs were late at night. How much that hurt me must have been unimaginable, and I am sure you are experiencing this same, piercing hurt. Are you over it? I'm not.

Perhaps Gaia (including the mods) will learn someday.

They should not discriminate.



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commentCommented on: Sat Jun 30, 2007 @ 02:56pm
They can't be serious.

That is... ugh...

You were a brilliant mod Yuzi, you most definitely didn't deserve that heart


commentCommented on: Mon Jul 02, 2007 @ 07:41pm
Sometimes mods arent gods.. they are just like everyone else. Gaia should know that.



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commentCommented on: Mon Jul 02, 2007 @ 09:57pm
I still can't believe you were demodded .___.
Dx


commentCommented on: Thu Jul 05, 2007 @ 03:23am
    It's gaia's loss, a major loss.




    Another reason I've quit gaia. ninja



Arikana Nakaria
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commentCommented on: Wed Jul 11, 2007 @ 06:34pm
ohs! *huggles* i'm sorry!

i knows you dont know me but you seem nice...

*offers the get-well-soon-cookie* 3nodding


commentCommented on: Fri Aug 10, 2007 @ 08:33am
You were always one of my favorite mods.
<3



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