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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:02 am
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NOCTVRNVS Well you know, just more misanthropic nonsense in my opinion. The same could be said of ANY species really, not humans alone. I mean if gorillas had the intelligence and capability to, say, genetically engineer new food products, would they do so cautiously and with regard for possible negatives occurring in their own or in other species? Hell no, they wouldn't, because as we can typically see from animals they aren't too concerned about other species. When it comes to things animals CAN do, they do them for personal gain, they are not carefully-considered decisions acted upon in the best interest of animal-kind. Ironically it is our animalistic influences that make some humans stupid while "in herds", if you ask me. You go to the mall, a bunch of goofy kids are waiting around by the front door, what are they doing? Likely scratching themselves in the nether-regions, jumping about and making screechy noises akin to those of a chimp in the wild, all while no doubt attempting to attract a mate. Not pointing any wiggers though. fingers*** sorry I wasn't saying it was only humans. In fact, you're accentuating my point pretty well. I hear a lot of talk about how humans are somehow "better" than the other animals. Everything in my experience says we just have bigger brains. If you want to talk in terms of numbers or diversity or success, it's insects that are the truly "superior" ones.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:09 am
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Efstathios NOCTVRNVS Well you know, just more misanthropic nonsense in my opinion. The same could be said of ANY species really, not humans alone. I mean if gorillas had the intelligence and capability to, say, genetically engineer new food products, would they do so cautiously and with regard for possible negatives occurring in their own or in other species? Hell no, they wouldn't, because as we can typically see from animals they aren't too concerned about other species. When it comes to things animals CAN do, they do them for personal gain, they are not carefully-considered decisions acted upon in the best interest of animal-kind. Aren't humans supposedly higher than other organisms? Also Aren't humans supposed to be taking care of the planet and all attendant organisms?
Well yes, that's true. However in this thread people are putting humans BELOW animals which is just not right. I'm not arguing that humans are always "human" but I don't agree that we are just another animal.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:33 pm
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:57 pm
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Zan Bakiryu NOCTVRNVS Well you know, just more misanthropic nonsense in my opinion. The same could be said of ANY species really, not humans alone. I mean if gorillas had the intelligence and capability to, say, genetically engineer new food products, would they do so cautiously and with regard for possible negatives occurring in their own or in other species? Hell no, they wouldn't, because as we can typically see from animals they aren't too concerned about other species. When it comes to things animals CAN do, they do them for personal gain, they are not carefully-considered decisions acted upon in the best interest of animal-kind. Ironically it is our animalistic influences that make some humans stupid while "in herds", if you ask me. You go to the mall, a bunch of goofy kids are waiting around by the front door, what are they doing? Likely scratching themselves in the nether-regions, jumping about and making screechy noises akin to those of a chimp in the wild, all while no doubt attempting to attract a mate. Not pointing any wiggers though. fingers*** sorry I wasn't saying it was only humans. In fact, you're accentuating my point pretty well. I hear a lot of talk about how humans are somehow "better" than the other animals. Everything in my experience says we just have bigger brains. If you want to talk in terms of numbers or diversity or success, it's insects that are the truly "superior" ones.
Well I don't think numbers or diversity is a definite plus...
I see what you're saying, and although my point may have supported your own pretty nicely, that wasn't where I was going. I was trying to say that humans get most of their NEGATIVE attributes from animalistic influences. I don't see a real argument that humans are not a race superior to any animal in just about every aspect (other than resurrection like some species of insect, but then again even with resurrection they still don't live very long so we have them beat in lifespan anyway). I mean there's no known animal that man has not killed, or outsmarted, or outlived. What we lack in physical ability we make up for in mentality. While wiggers may be constantly ruining the civilized establishments of man, there will always be those who uphold humans above all else in their own right.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:10 am
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Gimonavid NOCTVRNVS Don't talk too loud, there's abortionists here who feel it's okay to kill someone to prevent someone else's life from being at risk before it actually is, that includes YOU! Pardon me as I go tremble with laughter fear.
Well first off, you are indeed pardoned
Second, that was so aimed at you missy
Third, just for future reference you needn't ask for pardon to tremble in fear (or laughter rather, given your situation); although it is appropriate to offer a polite exoneration in circumstances under which such behaviour may be considered awkward to your company or host
(Always looking out for you darling)
And finally, the ole strike-out is SO outdated my little pancake, please do excuse my shrewdness but I always thought it was retarded pretentious lame ostentatious gay
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:42 pm
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NOCTVRNVS Efstathios NOCTVRNVS Well you know, just more misanthropic nonsense in my opinion. The same could be said of ANY species really, not humans alone. I mean if gorillas had the intelligence and capability to, say, genetically engineer new food products, would they do so cautiously and with regard for possible negatives occurring in their own or in other species? Hell no, they wouldn't, because as we can typically see from animals they aren't too concerned about other species. When it comes to things animals CAN do, they do them for personal gain, they are not carefully-considered decisions acted upon in the best interest of animal-kind. Aren't humans supposedly higher than other organisms? Also Aren't humans supposed to be taking care of the planet and all attendant organisms? Well yes, that's true. However in this thread people are putting humans BELOW animals which is just not right. I'm not arguing that humans are always "human" but I don't agree that we are just another animal.
How cleverly you evade my point my dear!
I was saying if we put ourselves below other organism obviously we should help them, but if we put ourselves above them we should take care of them. We are either their siblings or their stewards, either way our success is interdependant.
Either way we suck very bad at our job.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:53 pm
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:02 pm
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NOCTVRNVS Gimonavid NOCTVRNVS Don't talk too loud, there's abortionists here who feel it's okay to kill someone to prevent someone else's life from being at risk before it actually is, that includes YOU! Pardon me as I go tremble with laughter fear. Well first off, you are indeed pardoned Second, that was so aimed at you missy Third, just for future reference you needn't ask for pardon to tremble in fear (or laughter rather, given your situation); although it is appropriate to offer a polite exoneration in circumstances under which such behaviour may be considered awkward to your company or host (Always looking out for you darling) And finally, the ole strike-out is SO outdated my little pancake, please do excuse my shrewdness but I always thought it was retarded pretentious lame ostentatious gay
Don't call me darling. I don't care if you're looking out for me or not, just don't do it. It disturbs me more than you could know.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:31 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:02 pm
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I also have a very low opinion of humanity, but I still have to disagree with a lot of what you said (although, I tend to disagree with anything that is said too concretely). Humans really aren't all that different from animals. We're not the only creatures that are cruel; lions often trap and bat around young gazelle (when food is otherwise plentiful) before killing them. It is true that we use weapons because we are a very weak species in and of ourselves, but many animals might as well be said to use weapons. They sharpen their horns or eat certain things to make sure that their venom is in working order. The man o' war allows incredibly toxic individually living tentacles to attach to its body in a symbiotic relationship. Some animals actually use tools. We are not even the only creatures that enslave other creatures. Some species of ants actually force the ants of another colony to work for them after they conquer that colony. As for our seeking "unnatural" ways to postpone death, that can be chalked up to the instinct of self-preservation, which every living thing seems to have.
You're right, humans are destroying the planet and being generally moronic in many large-scale, long-term ways. I doubt that we can help it, though. If any animal has an advantage over the things which threaten it, it uses that advantage without hesitation. Hopefully our knowledge will reach the level required to undo the damage it has done over millenia, before that damage reaches the point of no return, after which the earth (or at the very least, humanity) would be doomed. The potential of increasing and applying knowledge is nearly limitless, and once we become advanced enough (and wise enough), we will actually be able to heal the world as well as live comfortable within it.
The only thing that separates us from the rest of the animals of the world is our intelligence. All intelligence does is allow us to do all the things that the rest of the animal kingdom do, but more effectively. Humans are just the animal that happened to become the vessel for the true source of the world's plight: a large degree of intelligence.
I pretty much agree with most of what you said about suicide, though.
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:19 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:24 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:43 am
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:42 am
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