Racism

[TempestRising]

Der Freischuetz

What is needed is a single culture. What's supposed to be great about the United States is that all the cultures come together to form one great culture. This hasn't been the case. Nearly every minority, be it blacks, Asians or the various Latin groups, are determined to be these groups before they are Americans. Consequently, these people think that they are better than everyone else because of it, which causes a lot of tension between the different cultures and races. These groups need to realize that they are an American above everything else. Even the majority white groups can learn from this, in particular the racist ones. One united culture is better than a slew of cultures that all think they are superior to every other culture because they're "different" and "unique."

I'm not sure that this is the case. Should different cultures really have to sacrifice their identities to become "part of the whole". The answer to racism seems to be understanding, the curing of ignorance in whatever way you can. This goal can be accomplished without making yourself second to a larger entity.  

[Der Freischuetz]

TempestRising

I'm not sure that this is the case. Should different cultures really have to sacrifice their identities to become "part of the whole". The answer to racism seems to be understanding, the curing of ignorance in whatever way you can. This goal can be accomplished without making yourself second to a larger entity.

Yes, they should. They can still be proud of their background, but they should not put it above the fact that they are Americans above all else. America is a melting pot of cultures that form one vast culture. It is not a bunch of separate pieces of a whole, or at least it shouldn't be.

For example, many American Indian tribes live on reservations, and they get special rights because of it. They should no longer be allowed to live on the reservations, they should have to live with the rest of Society rather than keep themselves separate from it because they believe that the White Man is evil. Get everybody to live with each other, and they'll have to learn to put up with each other because they'll realize that we're all Americans and that we're all equal.  

[TempestRising]

Der Freischuetz

Yes, they should. They can still be proud of their background, but they should not put it above the fact that they are Americans above all else. America is a melting pot of cultures that form one vast culture. It is not a bunch of separate pieces of a whole, or at least it shouldn't be.

For example, many American Indian tribes live on reservations, and they get special rights because of it. They should no longer be allowed to live on the reservations, they should have to live with the rest of Society rather than keep themselves separate from it because they believe that the White Man is evil. Get everybody to live with each other, and they'll have to learn to put up with each other because they'll realize that we're all Americans and that we're all equal.

Native Americans don't reside on reservations becasue "the white man is evil" (though I'm sure some of them probably agree with that statement). In the earliy 1800's, when it became clear that Native Americans were not going to give up the land that was rightfully theirs without causing much grief to the union, the states "gave the indians" their land. That is, the U.S recognized Native Americans as a soverign nation instead of part of the land they were conquering. On indian reservations you are technically not on U.S territory. You are in a soverign indian nation. (when I remember the name of that treaty I will post it)

In reguards to the "melting pot" theory, putting ones own culture before uniformity cannot be the cause of racism. In fact, even if all U.S citizens were to buy into the ideal, I'm not sure it would make a difference in the amount of racism. Racism is looking down upon another culture because you don't understand it, and thus view it as inferior. There is no way that the "melting pot" will teach americans, every aspect of the micro-cultures that make up the country.  

[Der Freischuetz]

TempestRising

Native Americans don't reside on reservations becasue "the white man is evil" (though I'm sure some of them probably agree with that statement). In the earliy 1800's, when it became clear that Native Americans were not going to give up the land that was rightfully theirs without causing much grief to the union, the states "gave the indians" their land. That is, the U.S recognized Native Americans as a soverign nation instead of part of the land they were conquering. On indian reservations you are technically not on U.S territory. You are in a soverign indian nation. (when I remember the name of that treaty I will post it)

In reguards to the "melting pot" theory, putting ones own culture before uniformity cannot be the cause of racism. In fact, even if all U.S citizens were to buy into the ideal, I'm not sure it would make a difference in the amount of racism. Racism is looking down upon another culture because you don't understand it, and thus view it as inferior. There is no way that the "melting pot" will teach americans, every aspect of the micro-cultures that make up the country.

I know they don't live on there because of that, but now that they have the reservations many don't want to leave them. They should no longer have the reservations. From what I've heard they're not really worth living on. Plus it'll be better for them to be assimilated into our society.

I don't think racism comes from not understanding a race, I think it's simply a feeling of superiority. Making all the separate cultures be Americans over their ethnic background will benefit the country. It probably won't get rid of all racism, but if the cultures live together and maybe start to realize that no culture is superior to the other for the simple reason that it's "different," it may help.  

[shadow_alchemist92]

racism can also stem from the fact that people think its bad to call people what they are. apparently, saying someone is black instead of african-american is bad, even if you arent saying anything bad about being black. i say im white, but there's no argument there. i dont call myself european-american just because my great-great-great-great-grandpa came from England, so why are some people so consistant with the term "african-american" being the "correct" thing to say. (the term african-american isnt the only thing i feel this about, its just an example of the many such things like it in our country and even the world today)  

[AliasL]

Your race should never matter. The color of your skin does not distinguish who you are. The things you have learned and the people you know are the things that show who you are. History teaches us that many different races were slaughtered ruthlessly, because they were thought as less than. Now, many of you may be angry with my opinion, seeing as the people of Iraq are waging war with us, but they too are people. People who just don't understand that they need not kill people. It is said that those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. Well then, I say, realize that we were wrong. We're still wrong. Not only races besides your own have died in these racial wars of the past. It will happen again, if we do not make peace. We have not yet found a way to convince the people of Iraq that we can be united, but a day will come and the sky will clear of the thunderclouds of angry citizens, and we will see that blue, bright horizon. We will see to the end of this war. I do not believe... in racism.  

[Der Freischuetz]

My Deep Sadness

Your race should never matter. The color of your skin does not distinguish who you are. The things you have learned and the people you know are the things that show who you are. History teaches us that many different races were slaughtered ruthlessly, because they were thought as less than. Now, many of you may be angry with my opinion, seeing as the people of Iraq are waging war with us, but they too are people. People who just don't understand that they need not kill people. It is said that those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. Well then, I say, realize that we were wrong. We're still wrong. Not only races besides your own have died in these racial wars of the past. It will happen again, if we do not make peace. We have not yet found a way to convince the people of Iraq that we can be united, but a day will come and the sky will clear of the thunderclouds of angry citizens, and we will see that blue, bright horizon. We will see to the end of this war. I do not believe... in racism.

Excuse me, but how does the War in Iraq have anything to do with racism? It isn't a racial war. It's a war against an opposing ideal. What even gives you the idea that this is a war of race? Because our enemy has brown skin, is that why? Sorry to tell yout his, but the US is in the war for the right reason, and that's to crush a stupid and inferior idea, the idea of Islamic Extremism.  

[fallout_bitch]

I think Racism is a sickening act of Bullying. There have been times in my school where a group of guys in my year got suspended for Racial comments to two Muslim first year girls. It was sickening to watch and even worse was that they were only suspenede 4 TWO days!The Girls Parents and the rest of the school are in an uproar about it! heart  

[Seliece]

Racism is something that, no matter what we do, will always exist. D: It's sad, and I despise it, but it's just so deeply ingrained it's almost unremovable [is that even a word? ._.;;;]

Take kids for example; they'll joke about races and I know they don't mean any harm, but they'll still throw it out there, meaning they do see you as different.

Like some people said before, who you are on the outside shouldn't matter and/or affect how people think about it. But it does. Think about it; how many of you can honestly say that when you look at someone the first thing you think about isn't their outward appearance? I myself am guilty about it sometimes. If I go outside or something and see someone, my first reaction would be "That person's of Asian decent" or "that person is caucasian".

There's nothing racist about pointing out what ethnicity they are, but you always realize and think about it. I think that's where racism stems from. People can't get past their first impression of who someone is on the outside.

Then there's outside influence. There are some truly sick people out there who truly think their race is best, and they'll try to get others to think that way. Also, generation differences. I've seen it happen all the time; some parents will not outright say they don't think highly of their race, but they might tell their child to stay away from people of a certain background, or tell them not to get too close.

It's always easy to say "I would never be racist or prejudiced" in class, but when you're thrown into a certain situation, who knows what you'll think?

 

[NOCTVRNVS]

Der Freischuetz

My Deep Sadness

Your race should never matter. The color of your skin does not distinguish who you are. The things you have learned and the people you know are the things that show who you are. History teaches us that many different races were slaughtered ruthlessly, because they were thought as less than. Now, many of you may be angry with my opinion, seeing as the people of Iraq are waging war with us, but they too are people. People who just don't understand that they need not kill people. It is said that those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. Well then, I say, realize that we were wrong. We're still wrong. Not only races besides your own have died in these racial wars of the past. It will happen again, if we do not make peace. We have not yet found a way to convince the people of Iraq that we can be united, but a day will come and the sky will clear of the thunderclouds of angry citizens, and we will see that blue, bright horizon. We will see to the end of this war. I do not believe... in racism.

Excuse me, but how does the War in Iraq have anything to do with racism? It isn't a racial war. It's a war against an opposing ideal. What even gives you the idea that this is a war of race? Because our enemy has brown skin, is that why? Sorry to tell yout his, but the US is in the war for the right reason, and that's to crush a stupid and inferior idea, the idea of Islamic Extremism.

RAHOWA! RAHOWA!!


But seriously, I see a lot of people here who think what they call "racism" will become extinguished over time. I happen to think it's the opposite.

Racism will ignite for good. One day more and more people will start to realize, hey, why is it always negroes that commit certain types of common crime? Why are so many of them poor? And why do 1 in 3 black men end up in jail?

And, PLEASE, don't say it's "racial profiling". That is such nonsense, and you know it... or maybe you don't... in which case I feel kind of bad for you.

I believe in the concept of RaHoWa and I believe it will one day occur.  

[ArtemisLust]

Dumb. That's what I have to say about racism. Dumb.  

[Shadow__Dweller]

To be honest I often get surprised that Racism is still as severe in today's day and age...it's not like other races are different anymore..they aren't new...it's not like we've only just discovered Africa or China and have never seen anyone of a different race...all sorts of races surround us all the time and I can't understand why people are so horrible about it. There's no excuse for it whatsoever. My boyfriend is black, and I'm white, and I was surprised at some of the comments that have been made against him. Not because of our relationship but just because he's black..and he's a very pale black too..he just looked tanned...it's just an excuse for people who are Racist to feel big about themselves for bullying someone else.  

[Efstathios]

NOCTVRNVS

I believe in the concept of RaHoWa and I believe it will one day occur.

RaHoWa? What's that?

In response to the topic, as long as racial slurs are in comman usage (Even when used by people of that race) Racism is still going strong.

I'm definately against racism and would love for race not to matter, but that won't happen anytime soon in the wide world.

I'll admit, after being harrased and molested by a teenage black male, I'm a little more antsy around uneducated teenage black American males. Then again, I tend to be antsy around uneducated teenage males, it probably doesn't have much to do with race. Ignorant people bother me, a lot. Race has nothing to do with it other than the fact that some people think that because of their race they shouldn't be educated scream My friend who is African got a lot of crap from her "African American" peers for caring more about her grades than her clothes!

What is so bad about acting educated!?!?! Why is it uncool to be able to speak properly!?
Maybe if the people who act/sound stupid then get offended when someone thinks they're stupid would just start acting civilized, racism wouldn't be such an issue.

I will admit though, to being slightly racist against "good ol' boys" otherwise known as rednecks or hicks. I mean, someone I had thought was intelligent told a guy asking for the NY times that we don't have the NY times because this is Ga...'Cause NY times isn't national news or anything...  

[Gimonavid]

NOCTVRNVS

I believe in the concept of RaHoWa and I believe it will one day occur.

The concept of RaHoWa is flawed. There's way too many non-white members of the human race for RaHoWa to even be a possibility anymore.

As a side note on racism: It's pathetic. I'm a Navajo and racist people amuse me.  

[NOCTVRNVS]

Gimonavid

NOCTVRNVS

I believe in the concept of RaHoWa and I believe it will one day occur.

The concept of RaHoWa is flawed. There's way too many non-white members of the human race for RaHoWa to even be a possibility anymore.

As a side note on racism: It's pathetic. I'm a Navajo and racist people amuse me.

Wtf? I don't see how numbers account for anything, if only you knew just how vast the White Nationalist movement actually IS. I mean take a few hundred thousand whites who already feel they are in every way superior to their opposition(s), and would love nothing more than to see them out of America and Europe for good... what's stopping it from happening overnight really? As for your Navajo blood, well, while you may sometimes have racialism aimed toward you, I don't think you would be the subject of any true Nationalist's prejudice. Nationalism is about keeping your country pure of race, and in the case of North America I don't think you can go back much farther than Native American (thus the name, Native American).

Efstathios

NOCTVRNVS

I believe in the concept of RaHoWa and I believe it will one day occur.

RaHoWa? What's that?

In response to the topic, as long as racial slurs are in comman usage (Even when used by people of that race) Racism is still going strong.

I'm definately against racism and would love for race not to matter, but that won't happen anytime soon in the wide world.

I'll admit, after being harrased and molested by a teenage black male, I'm a little more antsy around uneducated teenage black American males. Then again, I tend to be antsy around uneducated teenage males, it probably doesn't have much to do with race. Ignorant people bother me, a lot. Race has nothing to do with it other than the fact that some people think that because of their race they shouldn't be educated scream My friend who is African got a lot of crap from her "African American" peers for caring more about her grades than her clothes!

What is so bad about acting educated!?!?! Why is it uncool to be able to speak properly!?
Maybe if the people who act/sound stupid then get offended when someone thinks they're stupid would just start acting civilized, racism wouldn't be such an issue.

I will admit though, to being slightly racist against "good ol' boys" otherwise known as rednecks or hicks. I mean, someone I had thought was intelligent told a guy asking for the NY times that we don't have the NY times because this is Ga...'Cause NY times isn't national news or anything...

You know I might as well just put it out there, I AM racialist. I absolutely acknowledge there is a much bigger difference between each race of men than what is generally seen. Skin is only one difference of many. Although it is both ignored by the majority and excluded from the media, there is HUGE statistical evidence showing these differences; although the reasons behind them are unknown. Not even blacks deny that the black race gets in more trouble with the law than the white race in every part of North America, though they are quick to refer to "racial profiling" to explain this. Anyone with half a brain can see racial profiling is total BS. Okay, maybe it has a ROOT in reality somewhere, but seriously, blacks come up with phrases like "drivin' while black" which I can't stand. Do they honestly think the police KNOW they're black before they pull them over? And I suppose they "hide" the videos of white people getting arrested on COPS, right? The drug-dealers and carjackers in every single police-sting video happen to be black, they must just be acting.

Another common defense against statistics showing insanlely-high crime rates for blacks is that more white males are reported as suspects by the police than black males, per capita. Again, this is nonsense -- the police will report a "white" male whenever the suspect is not evidently of any other race. Sometimes even on America's Most Wanted for example they will call a suspect "white" although he's obviously Mexican or Asian.

I always wondered what they would report if Vin Diesel robbed a convenience store...

In my town there aren't too many blacks, it's an expensive town to live in. Yet, hilariously, one of them took a pistol into a bar and robbed the place one night. OBVIOUSLY he was caught within a few hours!! I mean seriously, I would estimate that less than 1% of the town's population of 30,000 is black, yet the ONE TIME we have a robbery it's one of them.

Anyway, in my perspective, the reason that speaking like a buffoon is "cool" is because black is "cool", and if you haven't noticed black people often tend to speak like primitives. And I'm not even saying that as a racialist, it's just an undeniable observation. It's leading to the corruption, once again, of the English language and if you ask me, that is intolerable.
"Dawg dis b***h-a** ***** is whack fo shizzle," says the typical American youth, to my absolute horror. That is not in ANY WAY English, it's just a disgusting leap backwards for communication. I realize there are plenty of blacks who DON'T usually talk this way, such as popular black actors, but in my observation the reality is that even THEY use this type of... un-language... when they aren't trying to look civilized on camera.

This is not some sort of "race-bashing" really, just a brief organization of a few reasons I can not ignore racial differences and the negative effect of racial integration. People have this idea like "racism can be stopped" if people just learn to love each other, but, c'est une rêve. Realistically, Nationalism is the only real way to stop "racism", as ironic as that may be. In my opinion it's quite apparent races were never meant to mix on such a large scale. Let's face it, whites are not the end-all purpetrators of racialism -- there is plenty of race-related crime against whites BY blacks -- which often go unenforced -- as well as race-related crimes against blacks by blacks (how about every time a rapper says "******" for starters).

I'm only scratching the surface with a few oddball examples here. Anyone interested in racialism (who has also the empathy to ignore a few rotten eggs here and there) and why it can't just "be stopped", I encourage you to explore the Nationalist forum Stormfront. Keep in mind the forum is inevitably full of KKK-type "Jesus wants me to hang some-o' dem neyggers" numbnuts that are really avoided by almost everyone. I was once a more prominent member of that forum and the knowledge and understanding I gained therein is vast. If you want to ask a question it will be answered, without aggression. Just do what I do and ignore the KKK-type dumbasses.