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Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:05 pm
I associate myself with the Republican Party. I consider my views to be conservative, but sometiems I wonder if that really is accurate enough. I'm currently thinking over abortion's place in society, as well as gay marraiage. But on every other issue, I seem to be smack-dab in the middle of "Authoritarian Right." I might possibly be moving even further right as the days go by. I concentrate mostly on foreign policy, and my views on that subject are harsh and aggressive.

And if any of you know of Aramek2 (man or myth?) we're good friends in real life.  
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:21 am
Democrat! I have my resons behind it, and yes I do hate bush, but just not because he is a republican.
I think that Comunism, though perfect, can't work. I did reserch with Russia, and people need insparation to do things, and they won't do anything if they just get paied for doing whatever they want.
Capitalism is the best way to go if govenments keep their works on the poeple and don't mess with it, Capitalism has a way of fixing itself without help, so Capitalism is best for economies, and as for the US gov. I think it's great that it has survived this long, and keeps changing with the world with it's living consitution, but I think our Judical system needs some more work, and we really need to inforce the seperation of Church and state.  

Neffir08


AliasL

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:26 pm
I'm a democrat. 3nodding  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:57 pm
Well, I don't fall under any actual party either, I believe in things from both parties, not just one. I don't agree with things from both as well. I believe we need to get a 3rd party up there, one that doesn't help the rich or the poor, what about the middle class that is badly beaten down from both parties. All the classes should be helped really, but not focus on one!!  

razzledazzle5160


Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:11 pm
razzledazzle5160
Well, I don't fall under any actual party either, I believe in things from both parties, not just one. I don't agree with things from both as well. I believe we need to get a 3rd party up there, one that doesn't help the rich or the poor, what about the middle class that is badly beaten down from both parties. All the classes should be helped really, but not focus on one!!

Don't expect that to happen anytime soon. The most popular parties are the Democrats and the Republicans, and both try to envelope a variety of beliefs for their political platforms. Other than that, there are a few "independents" scattered throughout Congress.  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:56 am
Far-right for me. Very near to fascism (actually to be frank, absolute fascism). I don't see how one could so oppose the Right in these frightening times when our society is becoming more and more morally void as it becomes more and more Liberal. But then again part of this new agenda is clearly to desensitize us to the dawn of extreme leftist socialism, and sadly it is working and we are giving up. Giving up our rights, our religion, our traditions, our morals, the very things that once defined freedom are no longer ours. We live in a far-left semi-authoritarian society where we are given a fabricated history and a fabricated code of morals and made to belive them without question. We are under constant surveillance and we simply ignore it as a part of American life. We pay taxes and it goes to WELFARE, and paying for DRUG REHAB. That sounds a lot like communism to me.

And the worst part of it is that we continue to vote in these leftist sensationalists to office as though we WANT all of this. Because we're MADE to want it. It's sickening, just even look at Liberal terminology; now I'm hearing this word "neo-con" as if to suggest that there is something radical and outlandish about conservatism, as if to compare conservatism to neo-Nazism. It most certainly is not. The very term "liberal" itself is meant to imply that it is a path to LIBERation. It certainly is not.

We're kept away from the Right by the government (aka ZOG) by constantly being under a blanket of guilt; guilt about the exaggerated history of the Right, featuring Hitler, Mussolini, and the gang. We are made to think that these people were icons of evil, that they were mass-murderers that symbolize everything Conservative (although they were radical and thus NOT conservative at all in reality). Yet there is a huge irony here, and that is that communist (far-left) governments have murdered EXPONENTIAL amounts of people compared to all fascist (far-right) governments in history! And they are still doing it today! Adolf Hitler is a saint compared to these communist mega-murderers who fight blindly for the radical left.


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I love what our leader sir Harper is doing with our once-beautiful nation of Canada; now I hear that soon, I won't have to renew my firearms license every five years (that's how it's been since 1991 thanks to the Liberal government) which has a hefty fee attached to it, AND we're considering stiffer minimum sentences for criminals who use firearms in crimes (the way it should have been all along -- criminals who use guns don't own them legally in the first place, so what good is it to penalize respectable owners). I'm starting to have hope for our future here when things were beginning to look very dim. I became of legal voting age just days before the last Canadian election and was very proud to help usher in our first conservative Prime Minister in decades. And now we're finally getting back on track.  

NOCTVRNVS


Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:02 pm
*Gasp!* And you're a Canadian!? There's hope for Canada after all!  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:31 pm
Der Freischuetz
*Gasp!* And you're a Canadian!? There's hope for Canada after all!


TELL ME ABOUT IT mate. I've got about 3 people from here rounded up who are like-minded; I think I've found all of them stare

I appreciate that you were aware of our terrible state.  

NOCTVRNVS


Der Freischuetz

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:28 pm
NOCTVRNVS
Der Freischuetz
*Gasp!* And you're a Canadian!? There's hope for Canada after all!


TELL ME ABOUT IT mate. I've got about 3 people from here rounded up who are like-minded; I think I've found all of them stare

I appreciate that you were aware of our terrible state.


I live in North Dakota, so I'm quite aware of Canada.  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:23 pm
Der Freischuetz
NOCTVRNVS
Der Freischuetz
*Gasp!* And you're a Canadian!? There's hope for Canada after all!


TELL ME ABOUT IT mate. I've got about 3 people from here rounded up who are like-minded; I think I've found all of them stare

I appreciate that you were aware of our terrible state.


I live in North Dakota, so I'm quite aware of Canada.


How could you not be? We're like your big fat little brother who's not allowed to play with guns, and we're sitting right beside you, the stench making your nostrils flair...

But seriously, Canada's one of the loveliest places geographically in the entire world. That's why it's such a shame.  

NOCTVRNVS


xsparklersx

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:54 pm
LOL rofl

Well, that's definitely an interesting point of view.


Ummm...lets see...my political views...

I am neither conservative nor liberal. I'm "other" because I agree with one side on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on the rest. Basically, my stances vary depending on the subject. I do think I'm slightly more liberal than conservative, though.

As for parties, I'm independent...and for pretty much the same reason as above. I've just never agreed fully with any particular party.  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:26 pm
xsparklersx
LOL rofl

Well, that's definitely an interesting point of view.


Ummm...lets see...my political views...

I am neither conservative nor liberal. I'm "other" because I agree with one side on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on the rest. Basically, my stances vary depending on the subject. I do think I'm slightly more liberal than conservative, though.

As for parties, I'm independent...and for pretty much the same reason as above. I've just never agreed fully with any particular party.


Well, I don't really know any Liberals who DO fully agree with what any one Liberal representative believes. I mean most of my family -- actually, most of my country -- is very Liberal but ain't none of my friends or family gonna sign any petitions for gay marriage any time soon. I don't agree with everything Stephen Harper believes (if it were up to me we would be ruled under a much farther Right) but I definitely endorse his campaign as a big step in the right direction.  

NOCTVRNVS


xsparklersx

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:15 am
NOCTVRNVS
xsparklersx
LOL rofl

Well, that's definitely an interesting point of view.


Ummm...lets see...my political views...

I am neither conservative nor liberal. I'm "other" because I agree with one side on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on the rest. Basically, my stances vary depending on the subject. I do think I'm slightly more liberal than conservative, though.

As for parties, I'm independent...and for pretty much the same reason as above. I've just never agreed fully with any particular party.


Well, I don't really know any Liberals who DO fully agree with what any one Liberal representative believes. I mean most of my family -- actually, most of my country -- is very Liberal but ain't none of my friends or family gonna sign any petitions for gay marriage any time soon. I don't agree with everything Stephen Harper believes (if it were up to me we would be ruled under a much farther Right) but I definitely endorse his campaign as a big step in the right direction.


Well, it all depends on how you look at it.

For me, I can't seriously consider myself a member of a group or party unless I agree with approximately 90% of what it stands for. I'm only slightly more liberal than conservative, and I really don't agree with either side on quite a few issues.

Perhaps your standards for associating yourself with a political group are less stringent. neutral  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:28 am
xsparklersx
NOCTVRNVS
xsparklersx
LOL rofl

Well, that's definitely an interesting point of view.


Ummm...lets see...my political views...

I am neither conservative nor liberal. I'm "other" because I agree with one side on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on the rest. Basically, my stances vary depending on the subject. I do think I'm slightly more liberal than conservative, though.

As for parties, I'm independent...and for pretty much the same reason as above. I've just never agreed fully with any particular party.


Well, I don't really know any Liberals who DO fully agree with what any one Liberal representative believes. I mean most of my family -- actually, most of my country -- is very Liberal but ain't none of my friends or family gonna sign any petitions for gay marriage any time soon. I don't agree with everything Stephen Harper believes (if it were up to me we would be ruled under a much farther Right) but I definitely endorse his campaign as a big step in the right direction.


Well, it all depends on how you look at it.

For me, I can't seriously consider myself a member of a group or party unless I agree with approximately 90% of what it stands for. I'm only slightly more liberal than conservative, and I really don't agree with either side on quite a few issues.

Perhaps your standards for associating yourself with a political group are less stringent. neutral


Well based solely on what you have expressed here, I would take you for an absolute liberal. I would be hard-pressed to remember even a single thing you have said that is otherwise-indicative...  

NOCTVRNVS


xsparklersx

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:09 pm
NOCTVRNVS
xsparklersx
NOCTVRNVS
xsparklersx
LOL rofl

Well, that's definitely an interesting point of view.


Ummm...lets see...my political views...

I am neither conservative nor liberal. I'm "other" because I agree with one side on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on the rest. Basically, my stances vary depending on the subject. I do think I'm slightly more liberal than conservative, though.

As for parties, I'm independent...and for pretty much the same reason as above. I've just never agreed fully with any particular party.


Well, I don't really know any Liberals who DO fully agree with what any one Liberal representative believes. I mean most of my family -- actually, most of my country -- is very Liberal but ain't none of my friends or family gonna sign any petitions for gay marriage any time soon. I don't agree with everything Stephen Harper believes (if it were up to me we would be ruled under a much farther Right) but I definitely endorse his campaign as a big step in the right direction.


Well, it all depends on how you look at it.

For me, I can't seriously consider myself a member of a group or party unless I agree with approximately 90% of what it stands for. I'm only slightly more liberal than conservative, and I really don't agree with either side on quite a few issues.

Perhaps your standards for associating yourself with a political group are less stringent. neutral


Well based solely on what you have expressed here, I would take you for an absolute liberal. I would be hard-pressed to remember even a single thing you have said that is otherwise-indicative...


The things I have posted do coincide with liberal ideals, but you should keep in mind that I have only posted on a select few topics. Holistically speaking, my ideals are not so liberal as you may think.  
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