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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:46 am
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I think that many people here have made good points. As for me, I'm not sure what I believe in, all I know is that the guy your with for your first time, if they don't have enough common sense to slow down and take it nice and easilly for you, then that's not the right person for you. They should look towards your needs instead of their own. Also, i think people rush way too quickly into these things. I know someong who was involved in sexual intercourse at the young age of 9. That's right, 9. I'm serious. This leads me to believe that we might have to be educated at an even earlier age then in grade 5. At least if you're educated in this, then you know the risks you're taking. I myself am a virgin, but I think people overrate virginity, for now almost all my friends aren't anymore. I think the media portrays things like this badly. At least know the risks before you rush into sex, for it can be dangerous. You could get an STD, or AIDS. At least have the common sense to use protection, and/or use birth control. Thanks for listening, ~Angel.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:41 am
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One of the main reasons for virginity being overrated and stuck up on a lovely little platform, is basically a long standing cultural anomoly from 1,000s of years ago, mainly sustained throughout religious texts. The most basic of reasons as to the act of sex being so tabooed, is that long ago it was a multitude of times more difficult to track a country's population, even with a census or two occuring every few years.
To offset this problem, people are divided into smaller units according to who they are related to, also known as 'families', and guidelines are given to them as to only having sex with their 'wed' partner(s). This makes people easier to track and count in a twofold manner, since it both cuts them up into much more bitesized groups, and gives more control over maintaining the population, since incidental births beyond the norm are better held in check.
Whorehouses and such are reviled by the general populace because they are against the teachings of those ruling them, and millenia later, these rough edicts still stand, burned in peoples brains as a 'moral' fiber, especially considering the numbers of religious rulebooks and such which still contained these guidelines even unto this day. No offense to any Christians, but I will use a few select verses to emphasize my point. No offense should really be taken anyway, considering that is roughly how the religion is spread anyway. mrgreen (By selective utility of more accepted verses and stories contained within this long-standing text, is what I meant in that last line, for those less tolerant readers with difficulty reading unspoken ties/meanings)
[mild sarcasm + empathy] I am sorry to anyone if these come off somewhat as being anti-religious in any manner, but I cannot help such ideas forming in anothers mind when I happen to be using such a 'clear' and commonly accepted source of truth. If my intent in writing this was to argue personal issues with religion, I would have placed this within the proper thread for such an arguement. Problems with my references are best directed towards your local religious leaders, though results may vary greatly depending on the levels of conditioning which you and/or they have endured. [/sincere sarcasms of one who tries to think outside of boxes constructed by time and mental conditioning]
All references drawn from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com Please do not use my source as a means of drawing conclusions in your personal opinions of myself and/or my opinion's value as a whole. Thank you.
Leviticus 13:40-41 (Baldness is a 'clean' thing to occur in men [verses after this indicate one being 'unclean' if a disease shows itself upon their heads, possibly signifying some manner of mental corruption during those times]) Leviticus 15 (This entire chapter is basically devoted to explaining how any form of sexual discharge outside of sex is an 'unclean' thing which contaminates all which it touches [19-30 also delve into explaining that a woman's menstrual cycle occurs to show that they are 'unclean']) 1 Corinthians 11:13-15 (Men shouldn't have long hair, nor women short hair [pushing the idea that balding in men is basically natural simply because God wants it to be such a way])
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:29 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:10 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:26 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:02 pm
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I find it intersting that human beings place so much value on sex. But what is sex, really?
Sex is the act of procreation. Its entire purpose to to continue the existance of the species, nothing more. However with our "higher brain function," human have place a value on sex that is not necessary. We give it connotations of love, and feelings that were never intended to be coupled with a bodily function. For example, deficating is a bodily function, but we place no high minded, religious or moral values on it.
My point is, sex is not the ultimate expression of love, or intimacy, it is a bodily function. A deep conversation with close friends is a thousand times more intimate than bumping uglies with someone you find attractive.
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:08 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:13 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:16 pm
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AngeliqueDaemon I find it intersting that human beings place so much value on sex. But what is sex, really? Sex is the act of procreation. Its entire purpose to to continue the existance of the species, nothing more. However with our "higher brain function," human have place a value on sex that is not necessary. We give it connotations of love, and feelings that were never intended to be coupled with a bodily function. For example, deficating is a bodily function, but we place no high minded, religious or moral values on it. My point is, sex is not the ultimate expression of love, or intimacy, it is a bodily function. A deep conversation with close friends is a thousand times more intimate than bumping uglies with someone you find attractive.
Umm... I would say that sex is definately more intimate than a conversation with friends... Do you know what intimate means? As for sex being a meaningless bodily function, that may be so, but it sure feels really good. ^.~ That is, if you've got a good partner... Lolz Sex is fun, why else would people do it?
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:30 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:32 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:46 am
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:08 pm
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Ok, so heres how it plays out for me, people I know(not family) say I should wait till marriage, but I belive I should have sex with the one I truly love! I'm a virgian and I don't mind, but I've found this girl I love to death but, she lives so far away, we've started dating and I know everything abou her, and she knows everything about me. I tod her I was a virgian and instead of her laughing at me like people at my school would she only said, "David, please don't go, I have something I have to tell you, don't break-up with me for it." that night she told me she wasn't a virgian!! I was shocked but I didn't mind at all. I talked with her for awile about it, now shes going to wait till she meets me to have sex again(in other worlds I'm the only one shes going to make love with). So I think you should chose when you want to have sex, not do as someone says(unless you're dating that person)! Shes the one I want to take my virgianity away from me so yea.
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:51 pm
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