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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:54 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:03 pm
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Captain Ragnar Devonin Tone it down a little guys, it's just getting a wee bit too hostile, eh? smile
Anyway, this is raising awareness for SOPA and is seems to be doing exactly what these sites set out to do. How can I say this with such certainty?
Go pop on over Gizmodo. Actually, let me type the link...
m.gizmodo.com/5877219/sopa-outrage-is-breaking-the-senates-websites
So although you may not be reading these outage messages, many, many other people are and they are flocking to these websites in numbers that are slowing them to dial-up speeds or outright taking the entire sites offline.
In the days even leading up today, I don't remember anything like this having happened. It wasn't until these sites became available that such numbers were hitting the contact pages of the senate websites.
Just thought I'd toss that link out there, mostly.
Thank you for your input, Former Cap'n. The story you just linked to is actually a tad amusing, I have to say smile Hopefully, the senators notice.
I wonder if anyone is actually coordinating such efforts. *cough*Anonymous*cough* I'd be delighted if they were.
For the most part though, I simply decided to stop feeding the troll, and recommended to Mongooseh to do the same. I'm trying to keep tabs on the discussion, and will lock when and if it gets out of control. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:37 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:47 pm
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Snuffins So like....this is really chafing me... Why should I, as a citizen of the United Kingdom, be a victim of something the United States passes?
Yes, america is not the whole internet, but it's a lot of the internet, and it's a lot of the big names on the internet. moreover, if DNS servers go down, people have to find ways around it, given the provisions of the bill, accessing IP addreses directly would still be possible, as may be using certain services and networks currently being used to bypass similar censorship in china, but both options present significant security risks, to all involved, and the latter would likely be made illegal shortly on the heels of these bills if it did catch on.
this whole protest is happening, not to protest american censorship, but to protest american censorship breaking the internet |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:50 pm
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Wikipedia, and Google shut down, or closed some of their services to show what a world with SOPA/PIPA would look like. Anything that may be subject to the bill could, and would shut down a site like Wikipedia. Gaia. Google. Reddit. You name it.
This bill can, and would shut down the internet. Its broad, vague, and sweeping wording, and its high costs would cause thousands, if not millions of servers to shut down service. And perhaps continue its way down straight to the very search engines and hop off points that Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo, Bing, and Ask.com are.
Think of those sites as basically alphabetizing the entropy that is the Dictionary called the internet.
Please stop being such a kid and whining.
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:52 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:52 pm
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SporkMaster5000 Snuffins So like....this is really chafing me... Why should I, as a citizen of the United Kingdom, be a victim of something the United States passes? because the problem with the bill is it threatens the stability of the internet as a whole. it would allow corporations to turn off DNS servers, meaning entire websites just up and disappear. Yes, america is not the whole internet, but it's a lot of the internet, and it's a lot of the big names on the internet. moreover, if DNS servers go down, people have to find ways around it, given the provisions of the bill, accessing IP addreses directly would still be possible, as may be using certain services and networks currently being used to bypass similar censorship in china, but both options present significant security risks, to all involved, and the latter would likely be made illegal shortly on the heels of these bills if it did catch on. this whole protest is happening, not to protest american censorship, but to protest american censorship breaking the internet
This sounds familiar... totalbiscuit? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:54 pm
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Mongooseh SporkMaster5000 Snuffins So like....this is really chafing me... Why should I, as a citizen of the United Kingdom, be a victim of something the United States passes? because the problem with the bill is it threatens the stability of the internet as a whole. it would allow corporations to turn off DNS servers, meaning entire websites just up and disappear. Yes, america is not the whole internet, but it's a lot of the internet, and it's a lot of the big names on the internet. moreover, if DNS servers go down, people have to find ways around it, given the provisions of the bill, accessing IP addreses directly would still be possible, as may be using certain services and networks currently being used to bypass similar censorship in china, but both options present significant security risks, to all involved, and the latter would likely be made illegal shortly on the heels of these bills if it did catch on. this whole protest is happening, not to protest american censorship, but to protest american censorship breaking the internetThis sounds familiar... totalbiscuit? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:55 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:55 pm
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SporkMaster5000 Suicidesoldier#1 THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA irrisponsible, debatably. stupid, no. a) people ******** know about this. A lot of people. A banner at the top? how many times did you read a personal appeal from [some jackass at wikipedia]? EVERYONE is paying some attention to this. b) it worked.
THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:05 pm
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Suicidesoldier#1 THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA
Quote: THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA
Quote: THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA
furthermore, the gaia banners I'm easily ignoring. they're non-invasive, and I spend most of my time on gaia half-scrolleld down a thread or forum, where the header is out of sight and out of mind. I might have gone a whole day without noticing the banners, i've gone about as long not noticing other changes to the header. that's not even me ignoring ads, that's me literally being ignorant of its presence. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:09 pm
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SporkMaster5000 Suicidesoldier#1 THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA we don't want oyu to like shiny ads. we want you to get pissed when everything you know and love on the internet is just ******** gone. this is a real possibility. if mythweavers being down right now pisses you off, imagine what happens if hasbro or any other corporation ultimately responsible for RPGS gets a wild hair up their a** about some posts containing copywritten information and they decide to nuke it. same s**t, only it's not back tomorrow. you don't like this thing that is happening, that is the point. Quote: THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA no, they don't. people who spend any amount of time on the internet either have ad blockers, or have trained themselves to ignore banner ads. there's a reason advertisements have to be every ******** where to get any attention, people don't like ads and ignore them if they aren't immediately interesting "baaw politics, legal s**t" isn't interesting. even wikipedia's blackout's been circumvented by people hellbent on ignoring things the internet tries to force on them. Quote: THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA I say again IT ALREADY DID HELP. large chunks of the internet went dark, reddit and wikipedia, two sites that did more than blocked off more than just a logo or some services are being mentioned first and foremost in news articles and the bills have already lost sponsors because of the strike. you are demonstrably wrong. furthermore, the gaia banners I'm easily ignoring. they're non-invasive, and I spend most of my time on gaia half-scrolleld down a thread or forum, where the header is out of sight and out of mind. I might have gone a whole day without noticing the banners, i've gone about as long not noticing other changes to the header. that's not even me ignoring ads, that's me literally being ignorant of its presence.
THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BY SOPA |
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