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 Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:56 am
hmmmm...
there are many reasons why people turn into war and violence...
1. they have something they wanted to prove
2. they are fighting for something
3. They enjoy it
4. because they need to...
5. They want others to suffer also because they do not want to be the only suffering in this world...
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:55 am
Humans are intelligent yet stupid, they have thrown themselve at foot of death. War is weaken or conquor another area, like Risk. We drive on instinct and power that we aren't functioning the brain too often. If we solve life through verbal and debate what is good or bad, some people will lose their sanity from the peace and quiet, which cause war.
The idea of peace sounds good, but we will possibly miss the bloodshed that happened long ago, trying to make the country crave attention. Animals always relay on instinct and instinct only. If they have a large knowledge of something, they could possible made war with us too. Which I doubt in the next two centries or so.
Have you heard of feral childrens? They are raise by animals and kill other animal to survive, like animals. There was that story about a girl who was raise by wolves and was able to escape from the hold she was in. Quite interesting how she use her pack. Okay I'm getting off topic again.
Animals are more likely having war with other pack, they are no different from us. Even if they are attacking other animals, they are still 'killing'.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:53 am
we kill because someone threatens us or attacks us...they hate us or we hate them its as simple as that i sometimes wonder if we even evolved from 2000 years ago...new technology=new violence...interesting how that works isnt it? better technology=more power...we kill because we threaten or feel threatened...i wonder if we really deserve to be at the top of the food chain...animals only kill what they have to we kill everything we like,dont like, or cant have...humankind is corrupted if the world didnt already know that...we cant get rid of our weapons either humankind is too corrupt for nice chats about world destruction u need to drill it into their heads after u get their attention which sadly is only possible by nuking some fags...We really havent changed one bit...
Conclusion: humankind is corrupted, and is deteriorating and someone needs to fix it...WE...ARE....PRIMITIVE....WAKE UP! FIX IT!
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:58 pm
All humans do are think about themselves, and people have different tastes of doing things, so people that like killing people will kill people, people that like war will go off to war, people that like saving people will save people, but it's always to their own liking. The same goes for most all animals, a female rabbit would most likely run away from a fox, leaving her offspring behind to save herself. It's just nature.
Humans on the other hand don't produce a lot of offspring, and a mother would usualy save her child before she would save herself, and the question goes on, would the president give his life for his country? What if someone started a war, and said they would surrender if we surrenderd Bush? What would they do, find a Bush look-alike and send the real one into hiding, or would Bush go off and protect his country?
Killing has been around since the begining of time, at first it was either for protecting a family, or for food. Now it's for game, and war, as well as for protecting, and for food. This may also just be inside our minds because the human population is so high now, and it's been put into some people's minds that they should kill, and create war. That is just a guess that I've been thinking about for some time, it is all just human instincts that have been with us since the human race began.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:00 pm
Yes...evolution has put it into people...it was needed at first but now it's just in everyone already. (Sad...really...)But there's no way to help it really....As I read in a book a few moths back (Blue Like Jazz from Donald Miller) The human heart goes to the dark side...it's in our nature...and the killing and death...is sadly what humans do. Even thuogh it's pretty stupid.
-Kacy
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:52 pm
phsycoticsniper Conclusion: humankind is corrupted, and is deteriorating and someone needs to fix it...WE...ARE....PRIMITIVE....WAKE UP! FIX IT! Actions speak louder than words. Don't expect things to just happen, if you want change you must do it for yourself. Yes, killing happens, but we can all do our part to help stop as much unnecessary murder as we can.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:10 pm
yes..i read a book recently...."Blue like Jazz" By Donald Miller....it showed....protests...and the like won't get what you want done....you have to start with youreself and then take real action to get it done...Spread the love...i guess you could say...but killing will always happen in samll and large scales
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:09 am
There is a Latin phrase: Succus nim parabellum. If you want peace, prepare for war. You want this death to stop someone has to kill someone. If this war is going on when I turn 18 I'm going off to war to kill some men to keep them from killin'. It's a vicious cycle though. They kill someone, we kill one of theirs in reaction. They get pissed off so they kill some more of us. We decide it's time to just slaughter them in a war where the rules of engagement are if they ain't with you they are against you. Soon this world will be a giant Auschwitz. Everyone'll be killin each other for food and resources. Competition turns more and more violent and Earth is flung into a giant war and very few humans survive. Resources start to return. We start building. Oil and stuff like that returns 10,000 years later. We have resources that we can use to create things to work for us. With less time to work and more to play, we start populating the Earth. Slowly at first, but the rate rises as more people are being born as less need to work and the population rises. Earth can't handle no more. The process repeats itself.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:07 am
Ok, let us pretend that we pulled out of Iraq right now. The people are independant and everyone's happy. Then, the terrorists attack the white house, The Lincoln Memorial, a residential neighbohood. Do we just say,It's ok, they're fighting for their belief." If war did not exist, the bad people would always win. They would walk all over us and we wouldn't do anything because of political correctness. War will not destroy the world, political correctness will.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:38 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:03 pm
ferret321 Ok, let us pretend that we pulled out of Iraq right now. The people are independant and everyone's happy. Then, the terrorists attack the white house, The Lincoln Memorial, a residential neighbohood. Do we just say,It's ok, they're fighting for their belief." If war did not exist, the bad people would always win. They would walk all over us and we wouldn't do anything because of political correctness. War will not destroy the world, political correctness will. Well, who's to really say who's good and evil in the world? The people who denounce political correctness are generally those who want the stereotypes to proliferate, and that's what causes conflict. You assume that simply because we leave Iraq, we're going to be attacked? Firstly, if we're attacked again, what it means is that the boys in the NSA, CIA, FBI, and DHS aren't doing the jobs they were told to do. Secondly, who's to say that us fighting in Iraq is what's preventing a terrorist attack? There are terrorists all over the world, and very few of them like the United States. An attack could just as easily come from the Philipines or Africa as it could from the Middle East. Don't assume that just because we're fighting a war in one place that we don't have to worry about others. People kill each other and cause war because of conflict, and the inability to resolve that conflict peacefully. The previous quote has some merit, that because people try and seek peace, war is caused. When one incites war, peace is the inevitable result, after much conquest, anyhow, but is that the kind of peace we want? It is my view that war and death must occur for people to survive and maintain their freedoms. When someone intrudes upon one's freedoms, the natural response is to strike back. Like the chapparak, which is maintained by periodic fires and destruction, so too must humankind suffer through war and bloodshed.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:43 pm
well to me it would be a bad goverment, or it could be greed, or power fights, or bussness, ok i know power fights are a little over in some cases but in war its usally greed,power,profit. but some times its odd that the way we act can destroy the earth.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:11 pm
Aya Mitsuko I just saw a documentray.... and there was so much blood adn death and hate and guns..... crying why do the little kids have to suffer? why the suicide bombers? why all the death? Well I think its profit and greed that get people to kill each other, money is a shortage in a lot of places and if get-rich-quick plans come along well greed takes over in a lot of people.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:25 am
simple every human seeks power once they have all the power they can obtain in that contry they move on the other contryes and the only way to do that is by killing people .simple
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:47 pm
sewing-life alchemist simple every human seeks power once they have all the power they can obtain in that contry they move on the other contryes and the only way to do that is by killing people .simple On the contrary, it is almost never that simple. Seeking and obtaining power isnt something you can just DO, it takes time and effort, especially to accumulate ALL of it in a single country. Having that much power would literally mean that you could do anything you wanted within your borders with absolutely zero repercussions and consequences. Statistically, it's impossible. Your explanation also doesn't address those who kill within their own countries, such as serial killers and zealots. These people don't kill for any power-seeking reason, but for their own needs and beliefs. They couldn't care less about taking over the country, they have their own reasons for murdering people. Also, what about people who kill in self-defense? Not just citizens, but police officers and other law enforcement officials as well. They contribute to the death toll also, are they seeking power? Before trying to make simple explanations, understand the gravity of exactly what you are saying, especially since nothing is truly simple.
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